4 comments

  • vntok 42 minutes ago
    Ironically, this 9 years old comment on the official documentation page of one of the affected functions perfectly describes both the nature and remediation of this major security flaw:

    > Paul Ryan 9 years ago

    > Note that locate_template() does not prevent directory traversal attacks, so if you’re passing a user-provided template name to the function, be sure to verify that it’s from one of the three appropriate locations (active theme directory, parent theme directory, or /wp-includes/theme-compat/ directory).

    https://developer.wordpress.org/reference/functions/locate_t...

    • foul 35 minutes ago
      Ahahah I remember to have patched themes for clients by hand, years ago. A different time, where a core team would for whatever reason leave security holes around to be sure you need three frameworks around their pile of dung code.
  • whycome 49 minutes ago
    hmm, this may be why i just saw an unexpected update to a very old theme.
  • system2 1 hour ago
    pearcmd.php must exist, and register_argc_argv must be on, not common with hosting providers. But I am assuming the other themes and meeting conditions possibly affect a lot of WordPress sites.
    • dofm 44 minutes ago
      As the article points out, one issue is that the official Docker container for PHP has this configuration.

      However at least in principle all of the affected versions [0] could be automatically updated. Not sure if they have set it to auto-update as far back as 4.7 though.

      [0] except 4.9.3 which has a bug in its automatic update mechanism.

    • foul 40 minutes ago
      pearcmd and register_argc_argv are just examples. get_page_template was unsanitized in some themes, that's the flaw, you could then combine it with one of a million unauthorized file upload in wordpress plugins to try and eval code. An attacker would like to use upload + this chain of requires (instead of just uploading a php) because of hardened configuration and the pwn can go unnoticed in the logs.

      Also, with pearcmd (if you can get to that, there's no open_basedir) and containers a novice sysadmin will publish insecure sites.

  • tptacek 58 minutes ago
    These CVSS scores don't mean anything and it would be better for everyone if they stopped showing up in headlines. This is a somewhat situational Wordpress RCE that impacts only a couple themes.
    • dofm 40 minutes ago
      Not sure if it’s a couple. Devs routinely make heavily edited copies of the core themes so there will be many, many unpublished themes that use the “page-“ prefix for templates; it was (is?) a reasonably common convention.

      (No particular disagreement with the rest of your comment though)

    • paulez 47 minutes ago
      This score specifically means that given some specific conditions, anyone can execute code over the network on a vulnerable WordPress setup. Is this not true?
      • bombcar 20 minutes ago
        My assumption is that any Wordpress setup whatsoever allows anyone to execute code remotely.
      • tptacek 41 minutes ago
        I'm not saying that the vulnerability isn't severe or important to people running Wordpress, only that CVSS scores are literally a Ouija Board that can come out to whatever the user wants them to.
        • nicce 27 minutes ago
          > CVSS scores are literally a Ouija Board that can come out to whatever the user wants them to.

          Not really. They are very good at describing the technical impact. Sometimes pre-condition is very rare and that reduces overall likelihood but for those few it applies, the impact still could be catastrophic. Who wants to risk it if whole business could go down?

          • akerl_ 20 minutes ago
            So if I get a 9.8 that doesn't apply to my usage, what is the CVSS score doing for me?
            • cleansy 11 minutes ago
              Published CVSS is a base score that gives you a hint of how important the analysis of a vulnerability is to prioritise the patching or mitigation. What you see on websites is only ever the base spiciness so to speak. If you have for example wordpress only running in an isolated environment behind internal firewall rules you‘d downgrade it accordingly. It’s a imperfect metric but so far the best we have to signal priorities. It’s all described in its spec that no one seems to read and websites also communicate it badly.
              • vntok 2 minutes ago
                [delayed]
            • vntok 7 minutes ago
              You need to reason about both probability and impact, not one or the other. In your example, it just means that the probability is very low, perhaps even down to 0 in your specific case. But even at a low probability, the impact of the vulnerability remains very high so it helps you reason about it.

              For example, you might react differently to these scores:

              - <8/10: check that your systems are indeed secure

              - 8.2/10: check that your systems are indeed secure and tell your junior analyst to train on creating a custom monitoring rule for that attack and follow-up with you

              - 9.2/10: double-check that your systems are indeed secure, ensure that if you had a hole another security layer would have caught it (if not, that's a problem!), set up a honeypot to get some info on the assholes that have repeatedly attacked you lately and will undoubtedly try to 0-day you in the next few hours, etc.

    • vntok 47 minutes ago
      > This is a somewhat situational Wordpress RCE that impacts only a couple themes. reply

      That is dangerously incorrect, a whole lot of themes are vulnerable. The main pre-condition, "presence of a top-level directory named 'page-xxx' like 'page-templates' in the theme's directory" is actually an official recommendation in the WordPress documentation.

      See here: https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/classic-themes/templa...

      > As discussed in Organizing Theme Files, WordPress can recognize page templates stored in the theme’s root folder or in a first-level subdirectory of the theme folder. *The page-templates/ folder is a common convention* for organizing global page templates, but it is not required. Page templates can also be stored in other first-level subdirectories, such as templates/ or page_templates/.

      • dawnerd 4 minutes ago
        Yeah not sure why you’re being downvoted when the built in themes are vulnerable as is the default docker image pre php8.5 which a lot of people use as a base and I bet a lot of hosting providers use as well behind the scenes.