NASA asked several former SR-71A staffers to help secret restart

(aviationweek.com)

39 points | by ilamont 14 hours ago

10 comments

  • walrus01 18 minutes ago
    I'd be more astonished if there isn't something superior to the SR71 (likely unmanned) that has been flying around at night from facilities like Groom Lake for years. Look at how long the RQ180 was flying around in semi-public and known about before it became seen in daylight by plane spotters in Greece. And a long time before that there were public relations approved photos of the Lockheed Martin Polecat.

    There were a series of extremely public quotations from senior DoD officially recently about how they plan to aggressively retire the Global Hawk program (which is a mostly non stealth aircraft), reading between the lines it's because they have something much better.

    edit: for those who haven't seen the RQ180: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=RQ180+gre...

    • hilsdev 15 minutes ago
      I suspect everything comparable of late has been orbital, which begs the question what is it they’re worried about with orbital? Satellite warfare is already accelerating if the rumors are true, is it that this is untouchable still? Is there some new camera sensor where eliminating that extra atmospheric diffraction or slowing down (lol) is needed?
      • walrus01 12 minutes ago
        I am sure that the orbital capabilities are also vastly improved from what the public has ever seen. But I think there's likely a high degree of tactical value in having something that can keep station over a certain active conflict area (as an RQ180 can, maybe flying in a racetrack pattern at altitude, with sensors aimed down).

        If you've ever seen the publicly released videos and audio of an RQ9 operator in communication with ground units watching the activity of a group of men/vehicles on the ground, in live real time, something like that.

        As compared to periodic revisits by LEO orbit satellites that don't maintain persistent live coverage, or the extreme distance and data acquisition problem that aiming sensors in geostationary orbit at a 10x10km target area might pose.

    • stickfigure 9 minutes ago
      > I'd be more astonished if there isn't something superior to the SR71

      Makes me wonder if this whole operation is just public cover for something like that.

      • tclancy 0 minutes ago
        The problem is the people in charge now have not earned that kind of faith. If they’re truly trying to relight these things, my heart goes out in advance to the neighborhood in the Southwest that burns down before they rethink it.
      • walrus01 8 minutes ago
        Or something as mundane as cleaning up and fixing something that's been out in the weather for 20 years so it doesn't look shabby at the front gate of their base.
        • Waterluvian 6 minutes ago
          I don’t know anything but I can’t imagine they need specialists if it’s just a cosmetics job for a monument.
          • walrus01 2 minutes ago
            Or the whole "retired guy in his late 70s gives a quotation to aviation week" is a red herring intended for US adversaries, which seems like a fairly basic ruse, but might have been put together as a coordinated plan. It could have its own value of sending opposing nation state intelligence agencies and air defense people down a man-hour wasting dead end of investigating something that'll never happen.
    • King-Aaron 10 minutes ago
      I know it's probably a forbidden topic around these parts, but the 'tic tac' thing that those FA18 pilots saw several years ago may be indicative of what Lockheed etc are flying up there. It's a hot topic in conspiracy circles but it wouldn't surprise me if a bulk load of ufo sightings were black projects being tested.
  • buildsjets 6 minutes ago
    NASA is fixing to kill themselves some pilots.

    Trivia, SR71 backseater Capt. Robert J. Roetcisender, RIP, on the right in the image below, was the designated pilot examiner who did my private pilot checkride many many years ago. It was pretty intimidating. All he asked is that I make the flight as boring as possible.

    https://www.blackbirds.net/sr71/sr-crew-photos/SR71-crews/da...

  • whatshisface 17 minutes ago
    As time goes on, Warhammer 40k will become a better and better guide to current events, apparently. Only one question: after recovering this lost standard template constructor pattern, how will the rites be learned to appease such a venerated machine spirit?
    • post-it 13 minutes ago
      There were a lot of things we couldn't do in an SR-71000...
  • trevithick 23 minutes ago
    Why would they do this?

    > And Lockheed’s operational manuals for the SR-71A still exist—and are superb...

    I appreciate this level of documentation.

  • consumer451 17 minutes ago
    A-12 (Oxcart) pilots say that the SR-71 was the station wagon version :)
  • yodon 21 minutes ago
    The SR-71 is cool, but this article is not at all confidence inspiring on many fronts.

    Guy being interviewed by a reporter about a secret project. A secret project that is trying to resurrect an antique plane that has been subject to weather and on display as a museum piece for many years.

    It sounds like a clown-show staged around a cool looking plane that's older than 90+% of HN readers.

    • caidan 1 minute ago
      It’s almost certainly being done by clowns on the orders of one of the clowns in chief. Note that quote, “I would drop everything to work on that” said guy who did not in fact drop anything to work on that. Reading between the lines I can hear old Mr loaf belting out “I would do anything for love, but I won’t do that!”
    • ceejayoz 16 minutes ago
      > It sounds like a clown-show…

      Well, the President wants to redesign the Navy to look "cool" - battleships, carriers with steam catapults again and center islands. Why not the Air Force too?

      • Waterluvian 5 minutes ago
        If you’re gonna have an Air Farce we’ll have to tariff you guys, eh?
  • swader999 34 minutes ago
    It's for a new Pepsi promotion
  • 0xbadcafebee 11 minutes ago
    To give you an idea how ridiculous this is: to start each engine, they made a cart out of two Buick V8 engines tied together - so four V8 engines to start the plane. Those V8 engines were long since out of production, so at one point they went around the country, to every junkyard, buying up every one of those V8s they could find, so they would have spares to start planes up in different places. If an SR71 had an issue and landed at an unusual airport, they had to fly the start cart and other equipment to that airport to start the plane again. Everything about this plane is expensive and one-of-a-kind. It's a hot rod that goes to space.
  • Computer0 28 minutes ago
    Reading the article, this does seem ill-advised.
  • DivingForGold 12 hours ago
    Bet Tom Cruise will be offering to allow him to use it for an upcoming movie thrilla
    • rbanffy 8 hours ago
      I wouldn’t mind, as long as the plane flies again.

      It’s a true marvel of engineering.

    • pdonis 40 minutes ago
      Top Gun: Blackbird?
      • bitwize 34 minutes ago
        More like Mission: Impossible. Replete with a mini-doco about how Tom Cruise literally for reals skydove out of the Blackbird without a chute and landed on the enemy rocket in one take.