Retirement Savings Are Fueling the AI Bubble

(lpeproject.org)

20 points | by speckx 44 minutes ago

4 comments

  • teddyh 15 minutes ago
    Doesn’t retirement savings fuel every bubble?
    • celtain 4 minutes ago
      >Similarly, thanks to recent efforts by the Trump administration, the $15 trillion held in private sector workers’ retirement accounts is now, for the first time in history, available to be invested in private funds.

      The argument is that retirement savings are being invested in different ways than before.

  • triceratops 14 minutes ago
    Somebody explain:

    AI companies and hyperscalers' kamikaze spending on data centers may not be profitable. But they seemingly have no choice because everyone else is doing it.

    Would anti-data center measures be like an arms control treaty in this arms race? Maybe if they force companies to spend slower it'll actually be good for everyone's finances.

    • andriy_koval 9 minutes ago
      > But they seemingly have no choice because everyone else is doing it.

      doesn't sound like valid reason

      • triceratops 1 minute ago
        That's how arms races work though. Everyone spends a ton of money to end up no further ahead compared to their rivals and peers.

        "The share price will tank if we're not seen as AI-forward" is a legitimate fear for many CEOs. It's the only logical explanation for tokenmaxxing and other behavior that only makes sense from a game theoretical perspective.

    • cyanydeez 6 minutes ago
      I think you're taking off in the wrong direction.

      Retirement savings are 401ks in the US and they're managed by _NOT_ the retirees, but random middle managers. Those are the people who are chasing whatever the bubble is producing because their "due diligence" requires them to be bootlickers.

      The same can be said of many of the tech moguls who've sworn fealty to trump; if they didn't lick the boot, they could be considered acting against shareholders value.

      So, like most things in America: the people are not in control of their actual power. Not in retirement funds, not in healthcare, and not in education. They've all been turned into bizare economic dependent indirect funding programs.

      • LogicFailsMe 4 minutes ago
        I despise target retirement age funds for exactly this reason and I have all my 401k funding in major index funds that I do not care about beyond that on a day to day basis.
  • matteoraso 6 minutes ago
    This seems like pure slopulism to me, to be honest. It doesn't back its claim that pensions funds are fueling the supposed bubble, just that pension funds are invested in AI companies. The given solution of completely divesting from index funds (since some AI companies are in the Nasdaq) is also completely unreasonable.

    >Are we on the brink of the next financial crisis? Last Thursday, there was a “bloodbath in tech stocks,” as the stock market lost $3.2 trillion in a single day.

    Sounds bad, until you take a closer look and see that this was just a 4% decrease.

    >In the longer term, with enough political will, we can redirect our retirement savings towards productive investment, such as building out affordable housing and funding the renewable energy transition. For example, NYC Comptroller Mark Levine announced a $4 billion affordable housing initiative in April. Pension fund trustees could follow his lead rather than direct money towards Blackstone, one of the country’s largest landlords and a major fund manager for public pensions.

    The slop bells are deafening. I suspect that the author is driven more by political motives than a sincere belief that the AI industry is financially doomed.

  • avereveard 13 minutes ago
    Didn't see them complaining when their fund went to the moon tho